Miyata Shoko
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What occurred to the fifth member of the Japanese WAG workforce on the Olympics? Why was she faraway from the workforce, and why wasn’t she changed with an alternate?
Japan is basically strict with its legal guidelines as they associated to underaged consuming and smoking, and apparently, Miyata Shoko – who was 19 over the summer time, only a month shy of the authorized age – was caught doing each within the lead-up to the video games by one in all her teammates who then reported her. Along with being unlawful for Miyata, smoking and consuming whereas “on the job” for the Japanese workforce violated the code of conduct, so Miyata was compelled to withdraw from the Olympic workforce.
The workforce did have an alternate – Sugihara Aiko – and although the coaches wished her to step in in order that they’d have a full squad on the ground as a substitute of simply 4 athletes, they weren’t allowed to as a result of Miyata wasn’t withdrawing resulting from an harm or different medical causes. A really unlucky state of affairs for any athlete, however particularly for Miyata after her extremely profitable quad, in addition to for all the workforce, which positively would have been within the medal hunt with Miyata within the combine.
These days I’ve observed that you simply’ve posted meet outcomes with factors like (+0.1) – are these bonus factors? Is that this now the brand new commonplace for scoring?
Sure, every time I add tenths in parenthesis with a plus signal I imply to say there are bonus factors included within the complete rating – so a 13 with a +0.1 in parenthesis is definitely a 12.9. This isn’t an FIG commonplace, however many nationwide packages have began utilizing bonus methods as incentives, typically to encourage extra issue, typically to encourage execution, so I attempt to embrace all bonuses after I share outcomes to make it clear that the scores you’re seeing aren’t utterly correct by way of what the athlete would obtain internationally.
For essentially the most half the bonuses are minor, however some packages – France with its espoir-level athletes, for instance – reward a number of factors in bonus, so clearly it’s an enormous distinction once you see a 13-year-old with a 60 AA that’s actually alleged to be a 51 AA or one thing. Once I replace athletes’ profiles or the high scores database, I additionally use solely the true scores and never the scores with bonus so once more what you’re seeing is an correct illustration. Some nationwide packages don’t specify when a rating contains bonus, so it’s not excellent, however in these instances it’s typically actually apparent when bonus is used (e.g. a junior with a 6.5 D on ground two weeks after getting a 4.0 D internationally) so I’ll simply make a remark on the outcomes and don’t embrace them in any high scores lists.
Relating to the 2000 all-around remaining, if they’d carried out what everybody thought they need to have carried out – stopped the competitors and had a do-over on a distinct day – would which have additionally had an affect on Andreea Raducan’s state of affairs? Might which have modified all the trajectory of Romanian gymnastics within the twenty first century?
It positively may have modified the course for Raducan, since she examined constructive for pseudoephedrine solely on the day of the all-around competitors which is the one medal she had stripped – she was allowed to maintain each her vault and workforce medals as a result of she didn’t have any points with doping on both of these days, so had the all-around competitors been postponed as a result of vault points, it’s completely potential she wouldn’t have examined constructive right here.
I don’t assume it will have modified the trajectory of Romanian gymnastics, although – I believe the standard of their gymnastics began to vary with the introduction of the open-ended issue, as their coaches and athletes merely weren’t capable of sustain with different nations that discovered learn how to work the brand new code for his or her benefit. This was a problem for a lot of high packages within the early 2000s, the place we noticed groups like Spain, Australia, and Ukraine in workforce finals, however then with the open-ended code, they began to fall again as they couldn’t sustain with different rising nations that realized learn how to thrive beneath this new code, like Nice Britain, Italy, and Canada. Romania was capable of depend on some high expertise to maintain them going a bit longer – like Catalina Ponor and Sandra Izbasa – and there have been the occasional newcomers who’ve been tremendous gifted and capable of work with larger ranges of issue, however I believe for essentially the most half their decline was extra resulting from their teaching and the lack to progress gifted younger athletes from extra junior-level expertise to the extent that turned essential to compete nicely in opposition to different senior athletes. It’s clearly one thing they’ve been engaged on, however in comparison with nations like america and Russia, they nonetheless don’t have something I’d contemplate to be depth on the highest degree. They’re once more counting on a number of actually sturdy particular person athletes versus studying learn how to prepare athletes to transition efficiently from gifted juniors to high-level seniors, and I don’t assume Raducan holding her all-around title would have had any affect on this.
What do you concentrate on the Paris 2024 girls’s ground remaining drama? My unpopular opinion is that Jordan Chiles’ inquiry ought to by no means have been accepted and that Sabrina Voinea didn’t step out-of-bounds. I believe it ought to have been Voinea in third, Ana Barbosu in fourth, and Jordan Chiles in fifth.
Not such an unpopular opinion I suppose, as a result of that is word-for-word what my opinion has been for the reason that very first day! Had Voinea not been given a penalty for completely no purpose, she would have been the clear and rightful winner of the bronze medal regardless of every little thing that was happening between Barbosu and Chiles. It’s wild that the judges made such an egregious mistake, and in addition unlucky that Voinea’s coach/mom didn’t assume to submit an inquiry for the penalty till lengthy after the actual fact.
I believe it’s unlucky that line judges typically make such apparent errors at ANY level in any competitors, however for it to occur repeatedly within the ground remaining on the Olympic Video games is totally inexcusable and makes me assume there needs to be computerized assessment of all OOB penalties in main worldwide finals going ahead. In a sport the place a lot is subjective and laborious to evaluate in actual time – like Chiles’ leap, which was not credited at first – I could be a bit extra forgiving, and there are at all times going to be questionable expertise that would go both means relying on who’s reviewing. That’s the character of subjective sports activities and we’ve to reside with it. However on this case, Voinea being docked a tenth for no purpose is totally not one thing that ought to have occurred at this degree and it’s infuriating that this one “little” mistake induced a lot drama and heartache that finally affected three athletes.
In your opinion, is the beginning worth for the Yurchenko double pike in WAG appropriate? There’s nothing to match it to, so I ponder how the FIG got here up with the problem worth.
It’s laborious to say what’s “appropriate” when there may be little supply of comparability, and on this case, even the FIG had some points developing with the “proper” worth, as they’d initially got here up with 6.2 and it was solely after Biles and her coaches submitted a petition to vary it to a 6.4 that it landed at its present worth.
I believe a method of it’s seeing the worth of a Yurchenko vault with out a salto in comparison with a Yurchenko vault with one salto, after which figuring out what then is sensible for a Yurchenko vault with two saltos. Equally, the ladies’s technical committee can look to how these vaults differ within the MAG code, which isn’t fairly the identical by way of how totally different vaults are valued in relation to one another, but it surely may give some steering, particularly by way of single-salto vault in comparison with a double-salto vault. I additionally assume the technical committee can have a look at the values of different equally troublesome vaults – the Produnova, the unique Biles vault – and reasoning how troublesome the Biles II was relative to those. I’m certain there are many discussions that revolve round all of those strategies and that the last word choice is made as soon as everyone seems to be in settlement on what makes essentially the most sense, however I believe additionally they open it as much as petition as a result of I’m certain there are at all times going to be folks – particularly the athlete who introduces the talent – who disagree.
McKayla Maroney stated she educated the Yurchenko double again within the tucked place. What would that be price by way of begin worth?
I consider that the tuck can be a 6.2 based mostly on one thing I learn in 2023 after Biles and her coaches petitioned for the 6.4 for the piked model? I don’t assume there needs to be a full 4 tenths of distinction between a tucked place and a piked place, so I can’t think about the technical committee going as little as a 6.0, but additionally don’t assume the 2 positions can be rated the identical, so a 6.2 is a stable center floor in my e-book.
Had McKayla Maroney competed the Yurchenko double tuck, would that imply she wouldn’t have been capable of compete her well-known Amanar in vault finals?
Sure, since each vaults are in the identical vault household – a Yurchenko entry with no twist – it means Maroney would have been capable of do both one or the opposite in vault {qualifications} or finals. In fact, she may’ve carried out the Yurchenko double tuck in prelims alongside together with her ‘Mustafina’ second vault, after which swapped to the Amanar with the ‘Mustafina’ for the finals! And I’d think about they’d even have her do the Amanar and never the riskier double tuck within the workforce remaining as nicely.
Why doesn’t Stephen Nedoroscik strap his glasses on like Morgan Hurd used to? I do know he’s capable of compete with out them but it surely looks like that was virtually a final resort. Why wouldn’t a strap be an choice?
Possibly it’s only a choice? I’ve tried the glasses strap for ballet/theater (my glasses have flown from my face mid-pirouette on MANY events) but it surely merely aggravated me and I didn’t just like the look, so I as a substitute don’t put on them for lessons or performances, and it’s not supreme, but it surely works for me and I don’t want them for these actions. He did put on his fortunate goggles for years for good luck, so I suppose the strap wouldn’t have bothered him, however I truthfully really feel like if I used to be sporting my glasses to do one thing tremendous athletic, even with the strap I’d be nervous about them slipping or falling off or one thing in order that may very well be the explanation!
In London, Jordyn Wieber certified fourth within the all-around, in Rio, Gabby Douglas certified in third, and in Paris, Jordan Chiles certified in fourth. Isn’t the two-per-country rule simply foolish at this level? An athlete qualifying third or fourth may simply win a medal.
Yeah, I’ve by no means been a fan of the two-per-country rule, particularly as a result of the FIG’s reasoning is that it opens up extra alternatives for “smaller packages” however the athletes who make it right into a remaining when a higher-level athlete is kicked out for being third-best on their workforce virtually ALWAYS find yourself being athletes from bigger, well-established packages who merely made a number of errors in prelims and couldn’t qualify in their very own proper. I did the maths in 2012 and the one format that permits for each high expertise and better alternatives is three-per-country in a 36-person remaining.
Regardless of my emotions right here, I do discover it humorous that the U.S. fought hardest for the two-per-country rule within the wake of Romanian dominance in 2000, and now’s the nation complaining essentially the most about dropping alternatives resulting from this rule. The entitlement!
Why don’t they make the ground bigger to accommodate the problem of the present routines? It appears out-of-bounds penalties occur increasingly incessantly.
I suppose it’s simply a type of set-in-stone issues that isn’t but a precedence to vary? Like, there have been authentic security issues with redesigning the vault and the widening of the uneven bars got here with the invention of huge launch expertise for the ladies, however whereas there have been advances within the talent degree on ground that are resulting from athletes bringing extra energy into their tumbling, none of it has been ‘modern’ in the identical means I suppose? Sure, there are steps out-of-bounds that end result from these greater expertise, however not at all times, and never in ways in which create huge points if the FIG does not enhance the dimensions of the ground, so I’d once more simply guess that it’s not a precedence. And on condition that the technical committees for each MAG and WAG are usually a bit extra conservative with how they undervalue loads of greater expertise utilizing security as their reasoning, they’d in all probability struggle in opposition to making the ground bigger to restrict the variety of athletes who go for greater tumbling runs.
Why did Marta Pihan-Kulesza try a quintuple pirouette if it’s price the identical as a quadruple pirouette?
There are a number of expertise that athletes are likely to go for regardless of there being an issue cap or limits that might make the talent the identical worth as a neater talent, however I believe athletes like exhibiting off their expertise and skill and though it doesn’t profit them by way of their rating, it’s nonetheless price performing as a result of it makes their routine that rather more enjoyable and thrilling to look at. If I may do a quintuple pirouette nicely, I’d do it even when it was the identical worth as a single pirouette, simply because it’s superior. I believe loads of smaller program gymnasts who may not essentially have the problem to medal typically deliver one thing ‘additional’ into their routines – particularly on ground – as a result of they wish to present that they will nonetheless stand out as high athletes even when their scores may not recommend it.
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