Beth Tweddle
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Fascinated by how Laurie Hernandez was (incorrectly) being touted as a bars and flooring specialist forward of Rio, has there ever been an elite gymnast, notably within the three-up three-count period, who may precisely be described as such? It looks like such an odd mixture of specialties.
Each time I noticed NBC calling her the bars/flooring specialist I might die just a little inside…it was SO OBVIOUS that beam was her factor?! I’ve NO concept the place they bought that and located it particularly humorous when she didn’t do bars in Rio AND gained a beam medal. I feel I yelled about this so much on Twitter and in my dwell weblog, like, don’t take heed to them! It’s not true!
To reply your query, I feel Beth Tweddle might be most notable as a bars and flooring specialist, particularly below the open-ended code…and I’m additionally going to say Brenna Dowell and Elizabeth Value match very well into this description. It’s undoubtedly not a typical mixture for a specialist, however I feel all three are comparable in that they had been all extra “highly effective” bar staff with massive releases and plenty of amplitude of their swing, and that energy additionally translated on flooring (and vault for Dowell and Value).
What is occurring with Charlotte Sales space? She positioned 4th on bars on the English Championships however doesn’t have an FIG license?
Sales space determined that since she is eligible to have UK citizenship, she needed to coach within the nation for a bit and see how issues go when it comes to doubtlessly altering her nationality with the FIG. It appeared like she was simply enjoying round with the thought at first and hadn’t absolutely dedicated to the nation change course of, so she nonetheless had an lively FIG license for america, however I feel as soon as the British group had so many accidents and it turned clear that she may doubtlessly be an possibility for the Olympic group, she filed for a nation change, which the U.S. accepted efficient instantly, and she or he is now eligible to compete internationally as a member of the British squad. She finally ended up incomes one of many reserve spots for the British group in Paris this summer season, which was fairly sudden primarily based on how issues seemed when she first began her journey, however it was superb to observe her go up to now!
How does the reserve system work for the Olympics?
It is dependent upon how the athlete who’s being changed qualifies, however usually there are ‘alternates’ from every qualification course of sitting in wait for somebody to withdraw. For instance, if somebody who certified through the all-around at world championships needed to withdraw, the athlete who’s next-in-line primarily based on the all-around rankings would get that spot. But when somebody who certified by way of vault on the equipment world cup collection withdrew, the next-highest-ranked athlete would earn the spot, and if somebody who certified by way of a continental championship competitors withdrew, the reserve athlete can be chosen from that particular continental meet…and so forth!
Is there one thing about gymnastics that inherently stunts or postpones development in athletes, or is it simply that coaches consider those that are naturally smaller are typically the perfect within the sport and reduce athletes who don’t meet their (ridiculous) bodily requirements as soon as they develop into youngsters?
I really feel like up to now it was nearly totally the latter, however now that we’re seeing increasingly gymnasts competing into their 20s and 30s in additional developed “grown” our bodies in addition to extra physique sorts changing into the norm throughout the sport in comparison with the old-school “pixie” kind, we’re not seeing the puberty delay as a lot or as typically as we did in earlier many years, the place developed athletes had been pressured to retire or stored out of the elite ranges totally. There are nonetheless athletes who enter the senior ranges pre-puberty, so it may very well be that there are only a lot of coaches who consider that the tiny children who keep undeveloped will make the perfect elite gymnasts, or it may very well be that the late bloomers are inclined to last more within the sport than those that undergo puberty earlier and discover it tough to transition their expertise and routines in additional developed our bodies. However I do suppose athletes who’re extra developed when it comes to their musculature are higher suited to the issue necessities within the sport proper now, so at the very least those that do develop later are seeing that puberty doesn’t must imply retirement or that they’ll’t do the identical ranges of problem they had been doing in smaller our bodies.
Why did Jordyn Wieber get to compete on the American Cup in 2009 when she was solely 13?
The American Cup didn’t develop into a FIG-sponsored world cup till 2011. As a FIG world cup, the organizers needed to invite gymnasts primarily based on their rating on the earlier yr’s world championships, however with out that designation, the organizers had been primarily free to do no matter they needed, and although they often caught with the identical format and invited solely senior elites, often we noticed some shake-ups, like an equipment format as an alternative of an all-around format in 2005, after which in fact an invitation being prolonged to the very junior Wieber in 2009.
How a lot is flexibility one thing that may be educated and realized versus one thing your physique can or can’t do? I’ve all the time questioned this for gymnasts who’ve hassle hitting 180. Is flexibility not prioritized, or is it attainable some gymnast’s our bodies can’t bodily hit a full break up?
Flexibility is unquestionably one thing you may work on, however each physique has its limits. There are people who find themselves simply naturally extra versatile than others, so somebody may very well be the perfect gymnast on the earth however not have pure flexibility and can actually must work on hitting 180 more durable than they must work on doing tremendous tough tumbling or bar releases! It’s additionally true that the extra muscular an individual is, the more durable flexibility turns into…I typically see actually versatile juniors acquire extra muscle groups as they develop up and so they lose a few of that flexibility that after got here a lot simpler.
There’s additionally a distinction between static and dynamic flexibility. I can do a 180 break up on the bottom however can barely get to 120 within the air…except I’m on a trampoline after which I can get fairly a bit extra however nonetheless to not 180. I feel there are undoubtedly plenty of gymnasts who’ve higher static flexibility, so doing a break up on the ground is simple however hitting 180 within the air just isn’t. However then on the opposite facet are the gymnasts who’re tremendous highly effective, and they won’t have full splits on the ground, however they’ll use their energy to form of power that 180 (or near it) within the air, which means they’ve higher dynamic flexibility. I feel Alicia Sacramone and Aly Raisman are good examples of gymnasts with good dynamic flexibility…I feel at one level one in every of them confirmed an image of them attempting to do a break up and so they weren’t near a full break up on the bottom. I used to be like HOW hahaha…however then they’ll bounce into one within the air.
So mainly all gymnasts are placing plenty of effort and time into coaching 180 splits within the air, however it undoubtedly doesn’t come as naturally for some…and I’d say these gymnasts are in all probability working even more durable at that 180 line than those that have flexibility come extra simply to them!
Do you suppose the U.S. girls will begin sporting unitards at competitions?
I doubt it. A lot of the U.S. gymnasts had been really requested on the press conferences at nationals a few years in the past in the event that they would favor unitards and so they just about all stated that whereas they respect the German girls for taking this step, they felt it wouldn’t be comfy making the change themselves. The overwhelming opinion was that they had been merely used to what most individuals take into account the “competitors” leo, in order that they most well-liked to stay with what they knew. I don’t suppose it’s even a consolation factor, because the sleeveless leos are usually extra bodily comfy than the lengthy sleeves, however relatively a practice or behavior that they’d been competing in since childhood. Possibly if the vast majority of the U.S. athletes had been like “we demand this alteration” the USAG girls’s program must cave, however since all the athletes individually appeared fairly in opposition to it, I don’t see it taking place, at the very least on the nationwide group. However perhaps we’ll see a number of who’re into it present up at national-level meets sporting unitards sooner or later?
Why are there totally different rankings for circle components relying on whether or not they’re in reverse grip or L grip (like an Endo being a C however Endo in L grip being a D), however not for launch strikes? Wouldn’t it’s more durable to generate top and rotation should you swing right into a Jaeger from L grip relatively than reverse grip?
The grip is unrelated to the discharge and is definitely a part of the swinging aspect. Most gymnasts do a backward big with a half flip to both reverse grip (normally referred to as a blind change) or to L grip (a Higgins roll) because the ability earlier than the Jaeger. Each of those are price a B…although the Higgins roll is unquestionably a bit tougher than your common blind change, with pirouettes capped, it doesn’t make sense to bump this as much as a C when there are tougher L grip components to account for. Whether or not a gymnast does a blind change or a Higgins roll right into a Jaeger, the worth is identical.
Nonetheless, if the gymnast did a Higgins roll after which carried out a entrance big in L grip after which did a Jaeger, that entrance big in L grip can be price a C, in order that’s the place the additional problem would are available in. Most don’t do that, although, as a result of connecting a C aspect to a Jaeger isn’t price something in CV, and most high bar staff gained’t be counting C components of their routines, so it’s simply form of pointless to do both this Higgins roll to entrance big in L grip to Jaeger or only a straight up Higgins roll to Jaeger. We actually solely see the Higgins roll for gymnasts going into entrance L grip pirouette sequences (so like, the Chinese language).
Why are some coaches comparatively unscathed within the public eye with none repercussions following complaints in opposition to them? In recent times, Mary Lee Tracy and Kim Zmeskal have had many former athletes from varied time durations stand in opposition to them and file complaints…however nothing got here of it. Former Utah gymnast Hailee Hoffman got here ahead and stated she reported Mary Wright, however wasn’t positive if SafeSport would “settle for” her criticism. Does this imply the coaches weren’t formally investigated or discovered responsible?
I feel the very first thing right here is that SafeSport doesn’t appear to prioritize emotional and even typically bodily abuse, except it’s critical or straightforward to show (by ‘critical’ I imply hitting or pushing an athlete versus making them prepare on an damage, which remains to be very critical and ought to be thought-about bodily abuse however is sadly nonetheless thought-about ‘acceptable’ in soooo many circumstances). From my very own expertise listening to athletes and fogeys discuss these sorts of ‘grey space’ circumstances, they have a tendency to get pushed again for a yr or extra, and by then, most of those that have made complaints not have the time or power to attend hearings (particularly when the hearings are rescheduled again and again, largely as a result of SafeSport is severely understaffed and normally prioritizes sexual abuse or these ‘critical’ bodily abuse that may be simply confirmed).
A gymnast coming ahead and saying “my coach yelled at me and made me prepare on a damaged foot” is clearly very critical and claims like these ought to all the time be investigated totally, but when there’s no proof other than the gymnast’s phrase, sadly there isn’t very a lot that may be completed and these sorts of complaints are typically pushed again. SafeSport would have completely accepted Hoffman’s criticism however I can see how the investigation wouldn’t flip something up, particularly since her criticism got here years after her abuse occurred. Within the case of Maggie Haney, alternatively, there was fairly robust proof in opposition to her (I consider each video and textual content messages along with the big variety of gymnasts and fogeys who got here ahead), so regardless of being on the decrease finish of the precedence spectrum, it was straightforward for investigators to return to a conclusion…and even that case took years to place in movement, after which one other yr or so to research and go to a listening to.
From what I’d heard, there was an ongoing investigation into Tracy’s conduct, however it’s been within the works for at the very least a yr primarily based on the knowledge I’ve, so I can see this as one which’s simply been pushed again attributable to SafeSport’s priorities. I additionally know that many of the gymnasts who got here ahead about Zmeskal did NOT file SafeSport complaints…there might have been somebody who did however I talked to 2 athletes on the time who stated they felt no must have her formally investigated and had been simply sharing their experiences to assist others who’ve been in that state of affairs. I feel there are undoubtedly many cases like this, the place a gymnast will discuss abuse they’ve suffered however not need to transfer ahead with one thing extra official, which I perceive.
I perceive triaging abuse circumstances to prioritize probably the most critical offenders, particularly when SafeSport doesn’t have the sources to deal with each criticism, however I additionally suppose the seemingly much less critical circumstances are typically simply as – if no more – harmful, as coaches are in a position to get away with emotional and bodily abuse that’s so dangerous for years with out anybody paying consideration, and I want there was a option to deal with all circumstances as high precedence. Till that occurs, I feel we are able to all consider those that come ahead and share their tales within the hope that public naming and shaming will maintain mother and father from sending their children to abusive coaches, gyms, school applications, and so forth.
Up to now, you wrote extensively about Kim Zmeskal and Maggie Haney displaying them in a optimistic mild, giving them important optimistic press earlier than their abuse was uncovered. Do you are feeling you shouldn’t have spoken/written with such authority, understanding what you now know? Are you going to be extra cautious about writing in regards to the tradition of a health club sooner or later, while you have no idea the reality of the state of affairs?
I a million p.c don’t suppose I ought to have written about these or any coaches with any authority, and I really don’t perceive how I believed my private opinions of them as individuals may shade my whole view of who they had been as coaches. A very powerful factor I’ve realized associated to discussing gymnastics – or sports activities basically – over the previous eight years is that I might imagine I do know a coach however I’ve by no means been within the health club with them as an athlete and I subsequently have completely zero authority to share my opinion of a coach or to debate the tradition of a gymnastics program.
It’s been an odd journey, as a result of I’ve all the time tended to take individuals at face worth and I assume that if somebody is very nice or pleasant or welcoming or humorous or charming, I’ve no cause to be suspicious of them. That was in all probability actually naive on my half, and I’ve since had different experiences in my private life which have modified my worldview totally, however how somebody presents in public doesn’t imply that’s who they’re, and so many individuals are sadly monsters when nobody is wanting. I’d so typically see coaches at competitions or in movies on the health club the place they’d be smiling and telling jokes, their gymnasts can be laughing, the entire vibe would look actually relaxed and enjoyable – so if somebody requested me if I believed somebody like this was coach, I’d say sure with out hesitation. They’re nice and their athletes clearly love them, why would I even query it? Penning this simply now could be form of mind-blowing as a result of I don’t even understand how I wouldn’t query it at this stage, however previous to 2016 – and even just a little after 2016 – I simply didn’t count on somebody may very well be so wildly totally different behind closed doorways and so I by no means even actually thought-about it till athletes began coming ahead.
I additionally suppose there have been so many coaches who had been terrible in public, so seeing somebody like Zmeskal or Haney was refreshing and I trusted that they had been ‘good.’ Nevertheless it really is very easy to be fooled, and I feel a few of the most harmful coaches are those everybody loves and who’ve actually good public reputations, as a result of if somebody comes ahead with a narrative of abuse by the hands of those individuals, they’re far much less prone to be believed. I personally have skilled this by the hands of one in every of some of these coaches, somebody I used to be as soon as pleasant with however who turned on me and bought fairly scary in a single interplay, however after I expressed my considerations to a few different journalists who had been additionally my associates, they each advised me I used to be “overreacting” and that this coach was fairly unbelievable, really. I as soon as additionally had that opinion, so naturally I questioned myself and my emotions about her and the state of affairs, and reasoned that they had been in all probability proper and that I used to be the issue. This was in 2015, earlier than any tales of abuse inside USAG and across the globe had been broadly public, however I later realized that this identical actual factor occurred with the quantity of people that defended Larry Nassar once we first noticed experiences of his abuse – together with a few of his victims at first! – as a result of he was so ‘good’ and publicly beloved as a uncommon optimistic mild inside a tricky sport. He couldn’t probably have completed something remotely near what athletes had been alleging!
It’s really easy to make these judgment calls while you assume your private perspective is the ‘appropriate’ perspective. I don’t suppose I ever even consciously thought that my perspective about anybody was ‘appropriate’ however simply relatively didn’t even query my perspective a few coach till another person stated one thing to alter it. My detrimental expertise with a coach who was as soon as so pleasant to me was surprising, and but this didn’t change how I felt about individuals basically, and I used to be repeatedly shocked each time I came upon one thing horrible about one other coach I as soon as thought-about to be ‘good.’ Once I first learn allegations about Zmeskal’s abusive teaching, I used to be shocked. And I skilled that time and again with each different coach I as soon as thought was ‘good’ however was later outed as not a lot. I believed the allegations every time, and can by no means query an athlete who comes ahead, however till these allegations got here out about every coach, I continued to consider within the ‘good’ I skilled and if somebody had been to ask me if I believed so-and-so was a ‘good’ coach, I’d proceed to say sure till confirmed in any other case, and didn’t actually see the hurt in sharing my opinion about an individual primarily based on my experiences with them.
Now, I’m hesitant to share private experiences with any grownup who has authority throughout the sport as a result of I don’t even need to subtly counsel that somebody is ‘good’ if there’s even the tiniest likelihood that an athlete is struggling below their management. It’s unhappy in a manner, as I used to worth most of the relationships I had with individuals I admired on this sport, however it’s additionally essential to separate myself and my experiences with coaches from how somebody behaves as a coach. I don’t need to consider everyone seems to be inherently not good, and I really nonetheless don’t consider that, however I feel I’m way more cautious about how I promote them and I attempt to follow sharing solely what athletes say about their experiences relatively than publicizing my opinions.
Even then, it’s such a nice line! I as soon as spent a full day within the health club and at dinner with a number of athletes, their households, and different coaches who had been all so enamored with their head coach, somebody I additionally discovered so humorous and endearing. By this time, about two years post-Nassar, I used to be extra leery of coaches or different authority figures and their public personas, however I believed it was ‘secure’ to debate this coach from the angle of everybody else round her, and so I fortunately revealed details about this go to and what I noticed and heard. In fact, solely a few years later each single one of many individuals I frolicked with got here ahead with horror tales, issues that had been taking place in the course of the time I spent with them however that had been so normalized, nobody actually acknowledged what a poisonous setting it was on the time (and in the event that they did, they stored silent about it). I had publicly mentioned what a enjoyable and wholesome state of affairs this was, primarily based zero p.c by myself experiences and a hundred percent on the experiences of those that lived it each single day. I actually felt like I used to be so cautious on this state of affairs, and but right here we had been as soon as once more, and I felt so responsible for not being extra cautious with how I mentioned the coach, the health club, and the tradition.
I really feel like probably the most accountable factor to do at this level is to not focus on coaches, applications, or cultures at ALL. Sure, I’d like to share a quote from somebody like Simone Biles speaking about how unbelievable her coaches have been in serving to her overcome her experiences in 2021, including precisely zero of my very own context or perception, however can I do that when different athletes have mentioned their very own detrimental experiences with these identical coaches? What if different athletes are struggling in silence proper now? Does each quote or story a few coach have to be asterisked with a notice that this is just one athlete’s expertise? I really feel like that’s overkill, and most of the people now know that one individual’s expertise just isn’t everybody’s expertise, however I’d nonetheless really feel liable for selling a coach as ‘good’ once they doubtlessly haven’t been ‘good’ for everybody, and so I are inclined to not discuss coaches in any respect exterior of info and figures.
Once more, that is probably an excessive manner to consider every thing, however I by no means once more need to be liable for spreading optimistic depictions of conditions that would privately be something however, and I need to take possession if I do overtly reward a coach or one other individual in energy and guarantee that it’s very clear when one thing I share relies solely on my experiences. I went from not even contemplating this when speaking about gymnastics to being so hyperaware of how my opinions may have an effect on different individuals, and perhaps now I overthink issues too a lot, however finally it was a essential lesson and I might relatively be overly cautious than enable my private experiences to outline individuals or conditions of which I’ve solely a minuscule understanding.
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